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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:49:59 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:Its worse than that. We've heard numerous pilots of all nationalities point out that these Black Rise detention facilities are a violation of Gallente law just as much as they violate every principle our society holds dear. It's my view as well that these facilities are illegal under Federal law, operated by rogue actors.
By claiming her actions have sanction under the laws of the Caldari State, Pilot Kim is essentially indicting her entire Nation's system of laws as complicit in approving her crimes against humanity.
Commander Kim's statelessness as a Capsuleer is the only explanation for her liberty to continue what would be crimes if she were a State citizen or regular Navy personnel. You know it. I know it. On some level I assume she knows it and uses her status as a Capsuleer to do the things she thinks MUST be done, if the Federation is to be destroyed.
On the other hand, the crime here is the illegal detention centers. Which are operated by the Federation - an organisation which talks an awful lot about freedoms and liberty and morality, but has shown itself capable of the kind of expediency that your organisation regularly accuses the State of.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4938
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Posted - 2015.06.09 18:22:31 -
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I find it difficult to know how to view the status of anyone who claims to be part of the State and has no Corporate citizenship, Diana. Even our bold Navy personnel only exist outside of one of the eight Megacorporations for the duration of their service and are granted Corporate Citizenship upon their demobilisation.
You, on the other hand, have chosen to exist outside the normal framework for the duration of your life, claiming affiliation with the Caldari Navy. Don't blame me for being at a loss to describe your place in the State.
Nonetheless, that wasn't what I meant. I simply meant that, as a Capsuleer, you aren't bound by the law of any specific state. Small 's'. Which means that your summary execution of your crews or your prisoners won't lead to you being arrested on criminal charges.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4943
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Posted - 2015.06.10 17:31:13 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Tuulinen-haan, I am disappointed you are evading in such way.
I am asking you for not what you have meant, but for what you have written. Or do you want me to start treating you like one of these forum clowns? I hope not.
That's why I will ask again, are you honorable enough to accept the challenge?
I will spar with anyone once, Diana, as I like to test myself against a variety of opponents. To get a second sparring session you have to convince me that it would be of some sort of benefit to both partners. I don't see the benefit to either of us, in this case.
As for a duel, I am strictly forbidden from partaking in honour duels by my commanding officer, who believes the practice to be anachronistic and pointless. You do, of course, enjoy the same freedom to come and find me in space near the Evati system that any enemy enjoys. Are you an enemy of mine? Perhaps you should listen to Cold Wind, Kim-haani, and remember what happens to the State when Caldari fight amongst each other.
Let me know when you intend to drop by and I will prepare a suitable welcome.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4953
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Posted - 2015.06.11 16:05:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Other idiot was claiming I am not from the State at all. Other idiot was claiming I can't disagree with people.
If I am supposed to have been that idiot, it's very ironic that I explained that you misunderstood me and what I really meant - your legal status as a capsuleer rendering any discussion of 'crimes' moot, since we are all unbound from any law that is not Concord's.
It's doubly ironic that you would ignore the clarification and continue to accuse me of something I manifestly did not do WHILST railing at others for ignoring your arguments in favour of attacking you.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4972
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Posted - 2015.06.13 16:14:31 -
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That and the fact that I'm an official Kalaakiota citizen. One of the Okusaiken.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4981
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Posted - 2015.06.15 05:57:16 -
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Diana wrote:
Did you want to turn the conversation this way, Tuulinen-"haan"? Enjoy your medicine.
I serve the corporation. That's all you need to know and more than you understand. You claim Navy affiliation, but the corporation whose tag you wear is the dead skeleton of the Provists. We were thanked personally for our service by Admiral Yanala, this century's Tovil-Toba whilst you fruitlessly courted the praise of a dictator - and even there I beat you, since your hero personally intervened on my behalf in CBD legal proceedings and never knew your name.
You once had my respect.You kept my pity longer. I would teach you what it means to be Caldari, but first I would have to teach you understanding - a task beyond my patience.
Find me in space if you wish but don't expect the honour of any kind of ritual.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4984
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Posted - 2015.06.15 16:04:12 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:You know, I've always felt competitions about who is the most Caldari are best done in a holo-show format. Where contestants must seek to overcome a variety of the most honourable challenges and obstacles at the risk of grievous bodily harm in order to win fame and the people's ovation forever.
Losers drink the Tea. Or vodka. Whatever works.
Remember how you were going to just shoot things? Can you do that without talking so much?
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4993
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Posted - 2015.06.16 18:52:50 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana wrote:
Did you want to turn the conversation this way, Tuulinen-"haan"? Enjoy your medicine.
I serve the corporation. You serve PIRATE corporation. I serve THE STATE. Can you feel the difference?
The State? What in the Maker's Name is The State, anyway? There is no State, tyuii, there are only the Corporations. Jaijii talk about The State. Caldari talk about Wiyrkomi, Ishukone, Kalaakiota, Lai Dai, Nugoeihuvi, Suukuvesta, Hyasyoda and the CBD. Patriot, Practical and Liberal. These are the Caldari. You don't even understand THIS.
And apparently you don't understand the difference between a Navy commission and a letter of marque from the State Protectorate. The State Protectorate! You're a Mall Cop, Diana, not a Navy Officer.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4997
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Posted - 2015.06.16 23:03:10 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: What is not amusing about someone having to resort to blatant name dropping in order to lend credence or legitimacy to their words or defend their positions?
Not much amusing in trying to dress like the edgiest cancer patient, either.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
4997
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Posted - 2015.06.17 01:03:30 -
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You've been catching all sorts in your Tristan according to the AARs.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:20:33 -
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To be a Caldari citizen you simply have to be a citizen of a registered Caldari Corporation. Most Corporations are aligned with or owned by one of the Okusaiken, the eight big Megacorporations that run most of the State.
So, to reiterate, despite what Miss Provist-Pants over there thinks, Pyre Falcon is a registered affiliate of Kalaakiota Corporation and many of it's employees are citizens of that Corporation or others within the State. I am not at liberty to explore the specifics of our contracts with the Empire or Kalaakiota, but I doubt I need to prove my bona-fides as a Caldari citizen anymore than I already have, do I?
Being a 'good' Caldari is, of course, a much more complex matter than simply being a Caldari citizen, but I doubt that a mouthy half-breed has much to teach me there, either.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5064
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Posted - 2015.06.24 17:42:05 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:well, at least I kinda got it. I would imagine if your an affiliate of Kalaakiola there would be something going back to your mother megacorporation right? Not asking what, still there is some connection financially or otherwise right? I've always kinda assumed something aside from loyalty still bound you to them.
That would be a safe assumption.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5069
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Posted - 2015.06.24 21:02:21 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:*grabs more popcorn*
As we make the popcorn, so must you eat it. The Osyn Way demands it.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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